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No return on education? a looong ramble

September 1st, 2007 at 04:58 pm

I just reread 'Karen' a book of my mothers about a family with a Cerebral Palsied* child. The dates are in the 1940's so of course many things have changed, but I wonder by how much.

One of the most striking comments of prejudice in the book was from legislators regarding education As the mother struggled to get funding for education of CP kids she was told in many ways "Why teach them they can never be 'normal' they will never be able to return the money in taxes"...

Is that the only aim of education to turn out 'normal' working adults?

There is a theory that public school is merely a tool of the government to turn out 'productive taxpayers'. I do not hold that all legislators and or educators are as twisted as all that, but it is an argument harder to refute with thoughtless comments like that around.

I personally am not as interested in turning my kids into tax payers as I am in watching them grow and learn, it is a wonderful thing to hear my son tell me some space or animal factoid ...That is why I share this wonderful world with him...for the pure joy of watching him accomplish what he wants.

The joy of watching a child take their first step, is the same kind of joy as you watch them write their name, or read a word, or create a story, or sing a song, or any skill.

And the joy of knowing that a certain four legged animal is a dog and says 'woof' is the same as the joy of knowing what the 8 planets are (and which got demoted) Or where Guatemala is or how to work a complex equation, or any factoid....

Or is it just me? Am I member of a small group that loves watching the pride children take in their own accomplishments? Is it really only a means to an end for most? Is there no reason to learn beyond a bigger paycheck?

I hope not, I know my children take delight in learning, and in watching others learn (and in teaching) I hope that joy never leaves them, and I hope they can find a way to spread it to friends and neighbors. I certainly have had no luck at it myself.

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Text is Wiki on CP and Link is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_palsy
Wiki on CP

Text is less technical, more friendl info on CP and Link is http://www.cerebralpalsy.org/what-is-cerebral-palsy/
less technical, more friendl info on CP

8 Responses to “No return on education? a looong ramble”

  1. disneysteve Says:
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    I'm with you. Quick story. We were just on vacation in New Hampshire. One day, we visited August Saint Gauden's home and studio in Cornish, NH. We took a guided tour of his house. My daughter loves art, but prefers abstract, whereas Saint Gauden did very realistic sculpture so she wasn't thrilled with the whole experience. However, in the midst of the tour, a question came up about something in the house. The National Park guide leading the tour didn't know the answer. One or two folks on the tour ventured a guess. And then my 11-year-old daughter, by far the youngest person on the tour, opened her mouth and gave a whole explanation of why the home was designed the way it was and how the tax system at the time is actually what would have influenced that design.

    You know that delight you refer to. You can be sure I felt it at that moment.

  2. nanamom Says:
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    Cool story Steve. Children with CP today are often placed in a "special" classroom, depending on the degree of challenge. I consider the amount of "learning" that goes on there to be suspect. FYI Karen is now an adult in fact almost retirement age and has been living and working independently as a secretary. Her parents are both with the Lord since the late 80's (I think).

  3. Joan.of.the.Arch Says:
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    Oh yeah, Steve, that is wonderful! And now I have to see if I can find out what that house was like to have brought the question up in the first place.

    PrincessPerky, I don't know if I have the words to express how incredible it was to be able to "be there" with my son through so much learning.

    Because of the recent talk here about homeschooling, I pulled out our old homeschool logs. It was such a nostalgic delight to see those old notes, even though what he did and learned was barely represented in these logs the state law required us to keep.

    He's off to a public school now-- a state university where he studies physics. This, too, is wonderful. The young man has stars in his eyes when he talks about how much he loves physics. Seeing those stars makes me very happy! I can clearly and dearly remember so many little childhood moments that led him along this path. I think of the saying, "To thine own self be true," and how home education allowed him to deeply seek, develop, and follow himself in a way that might not have been otherwise quitely so likely. He was able to be true to himself from day one. Homeschooling was very rich for both him and his mom & dad.

  4. disneysteve Says:
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    Joan - Someone asked why a house built on such beautiful grounds had so few windows. My daughter explained that years ago, the taxes you paid on your home were often based on the number of windows the house had and the number of steps leading to the front door. She had learned that factoid while touring historic Philadelphia.

    (I also volunteered that more windows meant more money spent on heating the home in the winter since a lot of heat got lost that way. This was long before insulated double pane windows.)

  5. princessperky Says:
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    Thanks for the more info Steve, I was about to go look up the house myself Smile (and I am lazy, so I much prefer to be informed)

    Joan glad to hear of your son, I love stories like that.

    Nana, thanks for the update on Karen.

  6. LuckyRobin Says:
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    Interesting windows info. Up in Victoria a lot of the old houses are built almost directly to open onto the street because the taxes were based on how much frontage, or land there was between the house and the street. They could have huge back yards and you would never know. Taxes sure caused some interesting architecture. The window tax does not surprise me.

  7. princessperky Says:
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    Sheesh, taxes are trouble all around.

  8. Joan.of.the.Arch Says:
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    Ha-ha, this made me think of my BIL's place in southern rural GA. with its two story "doghouse." Evidently property taxes there are calculated (at least in part) by the bird's eye view square footage of the roof of the house and all out buildings. For a long time this seems to have been fair way to estimate size of the house, as multi story houses were uncommon. But people started building funny, tall sheds that might also be two and three stories. The idea was to get much space concealed under one very small roof. So, a dog house might have a second story with a tall tool storage room. A detached garage might have a second story ramped for lawn mowers. Smoke houses were still common in the area 20 years ago, but I don't know if they were able to have dual uses.

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